Trump Takes NH, DeSantis Kisses the Ring

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Glennis Meagher: No exit polls.

No decision desks.

Brian Derrick: Just vibes and the vibes this week.

Jesse Watters: We have a call to make.

Brett Baier: Well, Jesse, the Fox News decision desk can now project that former President Donald Trump will win the New Hampshire Republican primary.

Brian Derrick: And before all that,

Gayle King: Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is out. He has endorsed former President Donald Trump, and now it is officially a two person race to become the Republican presidential nominee.

Glennis Meagher: and the Supreme Court heard some very consequential cases this week.

John Dickerson: Supreme Court heard arguments Wednesday in two cases that question a decades old legal doctrine known as Chevron Deference.

Katie Phang: And without the Chevron Deference Doctrine in place, everything, and I mean everything in your life, could be affected.

Glennis Meagher: Then we’ll play a lightning round of It’s Giving, invite you into our group chat, and leave you with a good vibe. Let’s get into it.

Brian Derrick: The New Hampshire results are hot off the presses and we have ourselves [00:01:00] two winners declared from the New Hampshire primary.

Glennis Meagher: Drumroll,

Brian Derrick: roll, please.

Glennis Meagher: Who, Who,

possibly could it be?

Brian Derrick: We’re all shocked to know that it’s Donald Trump and Joe Biden.

can you believe it?

Glennis Meagher: No, I’m, I’m shocked. I’m

shaking in my boots. Hmm.

Brian Derrick: which was very much expected, but not by as much as we originally anticipated. It’s been quite competitive with Nikki Haley.

so far from the votes that we have in, which is about 30 percent of the overall vote, he’s only leading Haley by single digits. Nikki Haley has over 45 percent of the vote, which is much higher than I anticipated.

And I think a lot of people were expecting her to

do.

Glennis Meagher: like I said, get me to South Carolina and now I really mean it. Because. Nikki is going to go to South Carolina. We thought maybe before [00:02:00] the New Hampshire primary results were in that maybe she would drop if it was a, you know, Trump blowout, but

it’s not.

So

Brian Derrick: Yeah, I, I genuinely thought anything above 30 percent was going to be really a big night for her and to have her currently sitting at 45. 5 percent is really impressive and is means that she is going to stick it out. She is saying, and she is saying in interviews that she’s going to stay until Super Tuesday, which is in March.

So this would mean that this sort of storyline keeps going for the next couple of weeks at least. but ultimately, is there a path for her to win the nomination?

Glennis Meagher: I think no, my, my, you know, crystal ball is saying no, but I’m, I’m super curious about where did all of those voters go? Where do all of those

Nikki Haley voters go when all is

Brian Derrick: Yes, something else really stood out to me in the exit polling, when people were coming out of their polling locations. Lots of reporters ask them questions. We call those exit polls. They also do it over the [00:03:00] phone for people in states that do mail in voting and that kind of thing. And what really captured my attention from the exit polls was that 47 percent of Republican primary voters in New Hampshire said that Trump was unfit to be president if he’s convicted of a crime.

And I think that you’re seeing a huge overlap between that percentage and the Nikki Haley, 45%. And it’s a big question. Do those people ultimately get on board with Trump when he wins the nomination and vote for him? Or are they going to sort of be like, I’m out. I’m not voting. I’m voting for Biden.

Anybody, anybody but a convicted felon. I don’t know. I think that that’s TBD.

Glennis Meagher: That’s going to be an interesting kind of grab when all is said and done

to see where we can get these voters.

Brian Derrick: agreed. If there is a reason for hope,

if people are looking for a reason for hope, that is where it is, is that when you tell moderate common sense people that they have a choice between a guy who’s a few years older than the last time they voted for him, or [00:04:00] a convicted felon, which it will be the case in a matter of months, they’re, they’re picking

Grandpa.

Grandpa

Glennis Meagher: Yeah. Yeah. They’re gonna, they’re gonna elect the guy who’s doing a pretty good job. But, you know, speaking of the potentially convicted felon, he is not even clear who she is. And this could have just been a senior moment. but Trump is,

yeah, not clear who his competition is.

Donald Trump: They never report the crowd on January six, you know, Nikki Haley, Nikki Haley, Nikki Haley, you know, they do, you know, they destroyed all of the information, all of the evidence, everything deleted and destroyed all of it, all of it because of lots of things like Nikki Haley is in charge of security.

We offered her 10, 000 people.

Brian Derrick: Wait, the size of the crowd.

Glennis Meagher: What

Brian Derrick: you mean the people who are now in prison? He’s like, this wasn’t your

inauguration. It was an attack on the Capitol. What are you

talking

about?

Glennis Meagher: Right. It wasn’t a, it wasn’t a pep [00:05:00] rally. It was an

Brian Derrick: Right,

Glennis Meagher: Uh, that’s right. And then, and he’s also, again, it’s all about the language use, you know, words matter. It is now the crowd. It is not the insurrectionists. It is the hostages now, not the convicted felons in jail.

Brian Derrick: Put up the photo, put up the photo of Elise Stefanik hiding from the so called hostages on January 6th. The attackers in the Capitol, she’s crouching behind, I just saw this on, on Twitter the other day. It’s an amazing photo, you have to check it out. But!

Glennis Meagher: yeah, I

Brian Derrick: a spade a spade. Trump

does not know Nikki Haley from Nancy Pelosi.

He’s trying to make a dig there at Nancy Pelosi and he is calling her Nikki Haley multiple times.

Um, if this were Biden, of course it’s

front page news on every conservative rag, but it’s Trump, so he’s going to get a pass. It’s.

Sad.

Glennis Meagher: Biden would be crucified if he had this senior moment, [00:06:00] truly. Trump, no one seems to care, but you know, again, my heart hitting Donald Trump reporting,

he’s old, baby. He’s

It’s giving pot kettle

Brian Derrick: It’s giving. Vibes. I mean, that is the definition of vibes and why we called this podcast, vibes only not to weave it in again,

but to

Glennis Meagher: no, we’ve been in Brian,

Brian Derrick: we’ve it,

we are

Glennis Meagher: like, and

Brian Derrick: over here.

Um, is that it’s the Biden vibe. Like they have effectively branded him as the old man. And so it’s on, it’s like his vibes.

For him to mess up a name, and, and that’s not Trump’s vibe. Trump has escaped, even though they are almost the same age, Trump has escaped that vibe, and therefore nobody cares. Because it doesn’t fit the, the branding. It doesn’t fit the narrative that’s being spun about him.

Glennis Meagher: Totally. He’s presented as younger than Biden forever. And now he’s not so welcome to reality. Donald [00:07:00] Trump, you’re old and you have senior moments.

Brian Derrick: And so Donald Trump just won the New Hampshire primary, but we also had a democratic primary

in New Hampshire,

Glennis Meagher: Which, Brian, I truly need you to explain this to me, because I know that the DNC tried and failed to move the New Hampshire primary,

correct?

So what,

Brian Derrick: right.

Glennis Meagher: but I need you to go a step

Brian Derrick: Yeah, let’s get into it. Let’s get into it. So you don’t have to look far on the internet to see why people are upset that Iowa and New Hampshire get to pick who the nominees are for president. These early states have a ton of weight in sending, um, candidates Nominees on to ultimately win the nomination to building momentum to securing additional resources and fundraising for your campaigns.

They are a big deal. It matters who wins early states. And so the Democratic Party after 2020 said. Okay, what does it look like to have [00:08:00] more diverse states than Iowa and New Hampshire, which are both exceptionally white and do not reflect the diversity of our electorate, racially, in particular, but in terms of the economy and other components as well?

What does it look like to have more diverse states participate in the early nominating contests, like right up front? To do that, we need to reshuffle the calendar. And so there was a long process within the DNC to figure out like what is a more equitable way to do this. They decided to move New Hampshire back and to move Michigan, Nevada, and South Carolina forward.

And the problem with that is New Hampshire is run by Republicans. And even though the party chooses how to nominate their nominee for president, the state Decides when and how to administer elections because they are state funded elections. And so there’s a law in New Hampshire that says we will, we have to be the first primary in the country no matter what.[00:09:00]

And they, exactly, and the Republican governor and Republican led state legislature refused to change that law or to work with the DNC to change the date just of the Democratic primary. And so therefore, the DNC responded by saying, okay, We’re not going to assign any delegates

to the winner of the New Hampshire contest.

And so they effectively said. New Hampshire, you are the weakest link. Goodbye. and that is why Joe Biden being very closely associated with the DNC as the current president, who is a Democrat, um, could not participate in the primary. And so he, his name did not appear on the ballot. Instead, Democrats in the state ran a writing campaign on his behalf, which as we know, as of just a number of minutes ago.

Was effective in one. Uh, and so he want to write in campaign statewide in New Hampshire.

Glennis Meagher: something you, you mentioned, which I think is important as it relates to Nikki [00:10:00] Haley in New Hampshire is that the Republican governor did in

fact endorse her. Correct?

Brian Derrick: That’s correct. Um,

Glennis Meagher: gotta help, the her vibe in the state.

Brian Derrick: a hundred percent. New Hampshire was make or break for Nikki Haley because, New Hampshire has a lot of independent voters and has a different approach to how they choose the candidates that they support. They also have a really moderate, very popular Republican governor. Sununu, who was expected to run for president and did not, and He endorsed Haley and has done everything in his power to help her.

and they have open primaries, right, where you have independents who can vote in the Republican primary as well, undeclared voters who can vote in the Republican primary for Haley. And so if she did not do well there, then she was going to do well, nowhere. Like it, it truly was game over and I would expect her to drop out tomorrow.

But now that she’s like putting up over 45%, as of this recording,

she’s going to stay in.

Glennis Meagher: Carolina, baby.

Here she [00:11:00] comes.

Brian Derrick: Terminator has started.

We are now entering the Terminator franchise era. Because AI has hit the presidential contest. And it only took two primaries. It only took two states for it to happen. But in New Hampshire, we had our first robocalls that used AI to mimic Biden’s voice. And

Glennis Meagher: I don’t

like it.

Brian Derrick: I don’t like

it either. It’s bad news bears. It’s bad news bears.

Glennis Meagher: So we don’t know. So people are getting phone calls. Like I’m a New Hampshire resident. You get a phone call from a number. You answer it. It’s Joe Biden’s voice. Not actually, it’s the AI version of Joe Biden’s voice asking you what or telling

you what to sit out.

AI, Fake “Joe Biden”: Yeah, it told people not to vote on Tuesday.It’s important that you save your vote for the November election. Voting this Tuesday only enables the Republicans in their quest to elect [00:12:00] Donald Trump again.

Glennis Meagher: That is so

creepy,

Brian Derrick: Yeah, that’s horrible. So that’s not Joe Biden. Obviously he never said that. And

it’s untrue.

Glennis Meagher: would he believe that your vote matters. Okay. Yeah. Your vote counts. Every.

Brian Derrick: who will always tell you to

vote.

Glennis Meagher: Who will relational organize you to death?

You have to vote.

Brian Derrick: yeah. And that’s not the only case. So we also had the Dean Phillips campaign. Remember he’s a Democrat who’s challenging Biden, use chat GPT to create. Dean Bot Which was a AI program that you could talk to like it was Dean Phillips. Chat, GPT has rules against that. Shut it down real quick. Real quick.

They said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And booted that person. but it’s happening. Like it is, it is absolutely here.

this is happening in real time, and I think a lot of people are not prepared for the potential consequences here.

Glennis Meagher: Also, like, you know, not to be ageist, but, [00:13:00] elderly people, or people who are still using phones in a way that, you know, Gen Z and millennials don’t, in terms of, if I see someone calling me, and I don’t know the number, I’m not answering that phone call. Period. You’re gonna have to leave a voicemail, identify yourself,

All of the

Brian Derrick: Totally. Right,

right,

Glennis Meagher: it’s, it’s so

insidious.

Brian Derrick: It is, it is. I would love to see the stats. We should bring somebody on a future episode to talk about, Spotting misinformation online and who’s the best at it because I think that there are studies about like, I think Gen Z. Sorry. Sorry. Young people do not scream at me. I think that Gen Z is actually way more susceptible to misinformation than we all think that they’re like digital natives and they actually know what’s what and what’s real and what’s not.

And I think that’s actually not necessarily borne out in the research. But let’s bring an expert on sometime and find out. I think that would be interesting.

Glennis Meagher: We need to throw Gen Z into 2001 chat room

and see how they do.

Brian Derrick: well, while we do have [00:14:00] to continue worrying about, two elderly gentlemen who are headed to the ballot box in November, by all accounts, we do not have to worry about one clown of a man.

Glennis Meagher: Meatball Ron

Brian Derrick: Meet Ball Ron, the robot. Rhonda Santis is out. Everyone celebrated. It was a happy day when he announced it. It was right after Iowa. He got out before New Hampshire and sort of the big. Question over everything is why, why drop out before right before New Hampshire?

I’m curious if you have a

Glennis Meagher: I, okay, this is, I mean, my take is for all kind of petty

and social, but he,

exactly, he, Dropped out right before New Hampshire. And then today, a few hours ago, he went on the record when Trump was talking about his indictments or any criminality in Florida, saying that he has the power of the veto pen as governor.

So he, the timeline of a 24 hour timeline of dropping out, [00:15:00] kissing. The ring and then saying, but nay, nay, nay, Donald Trump, I am still the governor of Florida and can do what I want to do. So it’s a very interesting social dynamic. and by the way, this, I hope everyone is sat in their chair. Ron DeSantis is 45 years young.

He is a young man as it relates to political, you know, entities in this country. So his political career is. It’s new by, by all, you know, understanding of what, what we look at for a president who’s, you know,

everyone’s old basically.

Brian Derrick: Yeah. I agree with you.

Ihe dropped out much sooner than people anticipated. We thought this was going to go on until Super Tuesday. The Trump campaign wasn’t planning on winning the nomination until mid March. And now we’re like talking about potentially it happening in January.

have a theory that it’s actually much more about 2028 than it is about any of the data in 2024. And so, one way that this plays out is [00:16:00] that Ron DeSantis stays in, and he does worse and worse, state after state, and Nikki Haley consistently overperforms him, and then going into 2028, that would be the dominant narrative, that Nikki Haley was just much better than him, and Whereas I think that by dropping out early and endorsing Trump, and him trying to like, hug,

His opponent, right, um, who’s, who’s been beating up on him for literally months, um, he’s trying to undercut that narrative and make it more about like, oh, no, I lost to Trump.

It had nothing to do with Nikki Haley because she’s going to lose too. And, and then in three, two years from now, three years from now, when we’re looking back, we won’t remember that the average voter will not remember. Oh, yeah, well. Haley actually was within two points of Ron whatever like we will just remember it was it was the Trump show and this is A clean slate and then he gets to run again not as a loser, but as sort of [00:17:00] like a blank slate

Glennis Meagher: And probably even a stronger.

Totally. And I think he’s, rather than staying in the race and belittling his brand day by day by day, he goes back to his full time job as governor of Florida and builds his brand up. So then, you know, come 2028, he is strengthened as opposed to terribly

weakened by Donald Trump.

Brian Derrick: Yeah, I think that it’s damaging to come in third or fourth place repeatedly in these early nominating contests and then drop out. I mean, think about like a Jeb Bush. It’s like, what did Jeb Bush do? Like what, what place did he come in? I don’t even know. I don’t even remember, but I know that it was not first or second.

You know what I mean?

Glennis Meagher: Yeah. He has a place in his dad’s heart, and I think that’s. It’s where it stays, but Ron DeSantis basically acknowledged If Donald Trump wins, it could have ramifications for democracy as we know it.[00:18:00]

he even has even said on the record multiple times that no matter what Donald Trump is not going to accept election results period.

Ron DeSantis: If Trump loses, he will say it’s stolen no matter what. Absolutely. He will. He will. He will try to delegitimize the results.

Glennis Meagher: So it is confusing, and disingenuous and just kind of speaks to, you know, the United States political system as a whole for the GOP that everything just seems fake.

And we have this person who is the front runner for the Republican nomination who has 91 indictments and no one agrees with him, but everyone’s supporting him. It’s like, what alternate reality am I living in?

Brian Derrick: Right, Trump, 91 counts, 4 indictments, it’s egregious.

Glennis Meagher: Right. So for the record, I was wrong.

Let’s

Brian Derrick: Um, I think that the other thing, before we let him, before we put him to rest,the other thing I want to unpack with Ron was [00:19:00] his Horrible campaign.

Politico had like the most searing coverage. The day after he dropped out, I have to

read this to you.

Glennis Meagher: They read him to filth.

Brian Derrick: To filth. Um, the library is open. Ready? As for the reasons behind the DeSantis disaster, there’s plenty to point to, starting with the candidate himself, who by multiple accounts suffered from overconfidence, arrogance, and social unease. Add to that a flawed media strategy, a truly disastrous split campaign structure, and a badly mistaken reading of the GOP electorate that DeSantis had been targeting MAGA voters ready for a new standard bearer who didn’t really exist.

Honestly nailed it.

Glennis Meagher: Yeah. I mean, lest we forget

Brian Derrick: He was a disaster. It was a mess.

His campaign was a mess. He burned literally tens and tens of millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars, and accomplished what? He got how many

votes in Iowa?

Glennis Meagher: it was a poor brand building exercise for him.

the vibes were so off from, from [00:20:00] ground zero when he did his Twitter announcement or X announcement for his campaign with Elon Musk. And it was a technical disaster.

David Sacks: All right. Sorry about that.we are, uh, kind of melting the servers. It’s okay. Just keep crashing, huh?

Elon Musk: See, I think we’re back online here.

Um, all right. Well, it’s certainly, uh, an, an incredible honor to, uh, have Governor DeSantis, uh, make this, uh, stark announcement.

are you there? Can you hear us? I think you broke the internet.

Ron DeSantis: I’m I am running for president of the United States to lead our great American comeback.

Glennis Meagher: I would have thrown in the towel at that point and just said, you know what, something here, the universe is whispering. It’s not the right time. Let’s just not do this, but you know what? Ron Ron

kept it going and here we are

Brian Derrick: I can, I can see that. Glenn is at 8pm with the tweet, never

mind,

Glennis Meagher: Nevermind. I thought it was,

Brian Derrick: never

mind.

Glennis Meagher: it’s not working for me.

Brian Derrick: I take it back. I take it back. This is all too [00:21:00] much.

Ron DeSantis:

Brian Derrick: well, bye Ron.

We will not miss you and I hope that Florida kicks you out of office real soon.

Okay. I want to preface this segment with just the acknowledgement that the Supreme Court is difficult to comprehend for various reasons. One, we’re not lawyers. We’re not legal scholars. We’re not writing amicus briefs, but the Supreme. Okay. Send me one, the Supreme Court.

Glennis Meagher: We will be talking about the Supreme Court more in this. Year 2024 of the Lord. Then we have probably our entire lives and there are going to be cases on the Supreme court docket that will have fundamental implications on the way our government functions as we know it, and on our basic human rights. And we’re going to talk about one of them briefly today. There are many, many podcasts out there that I’ve listened to that go into much, much more detail. On this case and [00:22:00] on other cases, if you want to listen to them, DM me, I will send them to you. We’re not going to get in the weeds on it, but we’re going to talk a little bit, a little bit about Chevron.

Brian Derrick: Totally. We’re gonna give you the non wonky take on a kinda wonky thing because it affects everybody.

The Supreme Court has used this doctrine called Chevron deference that says that when something comes down to a matter of technical expertise, like in, in the federal government, like the EPA regulating pollution, you have to know like how many, like particles per square million miles of particles, I don’t know, but like super technical stuff that only professionals in that field understand Congress is able to delegate.

That responsibility of regulating at those levels of technicality to federal agencies, and that is Chevron deference, and they have said that the federal government has the power to sort of move within these [00:23:00] boundaries like set out by Congress and, and to create policy in that sense. And what the current case is.

Threatening at the Supreme Court right now is that it would roll back or eliminate Chevron deference, and that would mean that Congress had to pass a law every time we wanted to change, like, whether forever chemicals were defined as X or Y, or whether how many particles per whatever are allowed in the air or in our water or anything, and Congress is not equipped To legislate at that level of specificity.

And so this is a really big deal for how federal agencies are going to operate.

Glennis Meagher: Yes, Congress, let’s take, okay, let’s take the EPA, for example, or to your earlier point, an air quality statute or something. The EPA currently has the, I’m using air quotes, but the [00:24:00] jurisdiction to regulate and define what a particle count might look like because there are people who work at the EPA who are.

PhDs or very highly educated in the science involved in that. Imagine if the power was taken away from those people who are extremely educated in the matter and put into the hands of Mitch McConnell, MAGA, Mike Johnson, Chuck Schumer, for that matter. I love Chuck. Is he, is he, is he an air particle? You know, does he know what’s best for the health and wellbeing of our environment scientifically?

Probably

Brian Derrick: sell, we sell ads, Senator. Like, Congress doesn’t even know how Facebook works. Literally, like we see these them them to hold hold these hearings, and they’re asking the CEO of Facebook or Twitter or whatever. Like, literally, how does how does it make money? How does the platform work? Imagine them trying to legislate [00:25:00] on super technical air pollution standards.

and it’s not even just a matter of expertise, because of course, they have like professional staff, they have lots of resources, they have money, they can have people testify. But it’s also about the sheer Volume that you have every federal agency, the largest employer in the country doing and making these kinds of decisions at the same time, all of the time, and that is, I think, a really important tool in our fight against climate change and a lot of the big societal problems that we face, is that we need a more agile and a more responsive federal government, not one that bottlenecks absolutely every single emergency response.

In Congress, where we know that there’s like record gridlock, I’ve said before, we’re having the least productive Congress we’ve had in several generations to give those people the power over whether my water. is drinkable and my air is breathable is terrifying.

Glennis Meagher: Truly. What do they know? Not much. [00:26:00] The Too Long Didn’t Read for me when I was reading different pieces of literature on this was that we,

Brian Derrick: it was Mark Twain or something.

Glennis Meagher: yes, because I’m a classy lady, The too long didn’t read for me was weakening or eliminating the doctrine of Chevron deference could limit the power of federal agencies to interpret the laws that they administer. It’s going to leave them handcuffed to be able to actually effectively protect American, you know, people on their, and their interests and their safety. So the too long didn’t read of, of this specific example is it’s not going to be great.

Brian Derrick: Totally.

Glennis Meagher: the Supreme court has not. Even flirted with the idea of ruling on the Chevron deference for 15 years, but it is very, very highly used in lower courts.

So

Brian Derrick: There are actually two separate cases this term that could affect Chevron deference, but more importantly, let me light a fire under everyone’s ass. By pointing [00:27:00] out that this is at the very heart of the conservative playbook. Like, they are trying to eliminate our ability To have a functioning government that can respond to problems and make people’s lives better, like at the end of the day, and so it’s not fair, but we have completely different missions in what we’re trying to accomplish if you are somebody who thinks that we can actually make society better, that the future can actually be brighter and that we can address the big challenges that we face if we work together and marshal resources effectively and think strategically and Evolve technologically, like all of these things, if you are someone who believes in that, then this should enrage you because they are absolutely working decade after decade, year after year to undercut even the chance, even the potential that we have to do that.

Glennis Meagher: make progress as a country.

Brian Derrick: arsenal. Right, exactly.

Glennis Meagher: That’s absolutely right. Dare I say it should chap your ass.[00:28:00]

Brian Derrick: It should. It’s chapped.

Okay, so Speaking of explainers that we need to do, um, on Fox News, they were having a hard time understanding how someone could be popular in a primary, but not in a general election, which are completely different electorates. maybe we can help them out.

Jesse Watters: How can you say that the guy who’s beating me and will beat me for the rest of the primary will lose the general election and then the loser of the Republican primary, Nikki Haley, will win the general election? Cause that’s your argument and I don’t understand it. Do you?

Glennis Meagher: Yeah.[00:29:00]

Brian Derrick: We do, Jesse. Wait, it’s giving politics 101.

Glennis Meagher: 101. Yeah. It’s

Brian Derrick: intro to Poli Sci freshman year. Who

Glennis Meagher: Yeah. You know what they say, poli sci, why try? Um, what history majors, history majors at the liberal arts college, history majors think that they’re better than poli sci people. Look at me now. I was a history major and I’m doing poli sci. Um,

Brian Derrick: it’s

Glennis Meagher: Brian, why don’t you explain it to him?

Brian Derrick: I mean, it’s almost giving gaslighting.

Glennis Meagher: Right. Are you,

Brian Derrick: he trying to trick her into saying something? Like, that’s really wild. not to make any of our listeners Who’s full time job it is not to talk about politics feel any type of way, but that’s kind of basic for someone who literally spends all their time ragging on [00:30:00] politicians on

Glennis Meagher: Has a TV show and is getting paid millions of dollars a year, millions of dollars a year to talk about politics to a very, very, very large audience, you need to have some basic fundamentals.

Brian Derrick: Totally. So, the primary electorate for the most part. represents the extremes of a party where the most loyal primary voters are the people who oftentimes are like most dedicated to their party’s ideals and ideology. I was a great example of this where last week we saw Trump win Iowa handily.

Um, but that really only represented a small fraction. Of the Republican Party, which represented a very small fraction of voters in the state. And so,

Glennis Meagher: That’s right.

Brian Derrick: it’s not a fair extrapolation to say, Oh, he won this 10 percent of the electorate, so therefore, if we ask 100 percent of the electorate, he will win all of those [00:31:00] people as well.

That’s a ridiculous Idea. and so Nikki Haley is exactly right in her argument. I also talked about this on Instagram, which caused a little drama today in my DMs. I do believe that Nikki Haley would dominate in the general election. She cannot get Republicans on her side to win the primary, but if she got through the primary, I absolutely think that we would have a very difficult time finding someone to beat her, and I Don’t think that that person’s last name rhymes with Ryden.

Glennis Meagher: this is the one thing we agree on, but I’m not going to go into it more because I don’t want to, I don’t want to put that in the universe. yeah, I think we also have some really intellectual post primary analysis from Marjorie Taylor green.

Brian Derrick: That’s concerning.

[00:32:00] Keep stalking. Oh!

Glennis Meagher: Oh, I want to. Oh,

Brian Derrick: Not correct. It’s giving tipsy. It was giving,

Glennis Meagher: it’s giving [00:33:00] everybody in the club, getting tipsy.

Brian Derrick: it’s, it’s giving aunt who had three too many glasses of wine at dinner,

Glennis Meagher: And you asked like, how are you? And she’s like, let me tell you.

Brian Derrick: Totally, she just unloads. Um, yeah, it’s giving audition. That, that is an audition for vice president, 100%.

Glennis Meagher: She was

Brian Derrick: Greene is trying to get snapped up,

Glennis Meagher: That’s exactly right. She was not speaking to the audience when she was speaking to camera. She was speaking to daddy, daddy Don, hire me. What a loser. Literally. What a loser.

Brian Derrick: it is also a premonition of the cries of fake elections and skewed results and fake candidates and all of that that we’re going to continue to see from that wing of the party, if not the party as a whole, um,

Glennis Meagher: right. To say it’s a lie. It’s like, it’s not a lie. It’s just the reality.

Brian Derrick: my group chat was literally blowing up with you today to the point that [00:34:00] it was annoying.

Um,

Glennis Meagher: that one?

Brian Derrick: silence it. Yes, I was like, stop.

Glennis Meagher: talking about?

Brian Derrick: don’t know. I couldn’t read. I had like 200 messages. I couldn’t go back and read.

Glennis Meagher: From the poli sci gossip hotline chat.

well, this is when everyone was like, DeSantis, DeSantis, again, you know, I try and keep it at the pop culture level, this tweet that I sent everyone because it was diva down, baby.

remember when me bar on were that best and those white boots during the hurricane, like aftermath tour and like of all the boots, the people, you have a lot of choices in your life that you can make.

What are the simplest choices you can make? And depending on privilege, et cetera, is what you put on your body, who on his team was like, these are the white boots you’re going to wear.

This is photo. It’s a tweet. We’ll show it. Boots will be worn at half calf tonight.

And it’s just like a guy eating pudding. Cause unless we forget the pudding with the fingers. [00:35:00] Tweeting and he has his white cowboy boots on. That was mine. That was a big one.

Brian Derrick: Ron looked like a literal cabbage patch kid in those. It was really bad. Um, And I would say my group chats this week definitely blew up with an increase in democratic fundraising texts. Like there was an aggressive amount this week, there’s a big deadline coming up next week and it’s going to be bad all week long, I’m telling you right now.

Andpeople are sick of it and they’re. Honestly, creating hilarious memes about it, but they’re also very annoyed.

Glennis Meagher: they are the definition of unhinged. It’s like knock, knock, knock, knock. It’s Nancy Pelosi. You’re going to die if you don’t give me 5.

Brian Derrick: I mean, I’m seeing a lot of, of ones just from candidates that you’ve, that you’ve never heard of just like, Hey, I’m Lauren and I’m running for house district 10 in Idaho, and I need your support in order to flip this district. And it’s like, [00:36:00] what, who are you? And I’m saying that! Me!

Glennis Meagher: You know how I respond to all of them now

Brian Derrick: Tell

Glennis Meagher: you’re barking up the wrong tree. You’re barking up the wrong tree.

Brian Derrick: No, they’re not though. That’s exactly You are the exact tree that they are looking to bark up. Precisely.

Glennis Meagher: but I, yeah, but my name, my name and my number is just being sold left and right. And I’m over it. And the, the, the texts are getting increasingly unhinged. And by the way, boy, you cried wolf. If everything is a crisis.

Brian Derrick: Right. If only someone created an entire platform where you could do this giving without giving your information away,

Glennis Meagher: Uh,

Brian Derrick: that’s for another time,

but there was one other thing that I have to call attention to that my good friend, Eliza Orleans,

Glennis Meagher: Oh, yes. I saw Eliza

Brian Derrick: Um, candidate for DA in Manhattan and also happen to participate in a show, Survivor, of which I am a huge stan.

[00:37:00] Um, single handedly. Brought national attention to another survivor contestants bill who’s now in the Kentucky legislature that his bill to remove first cousin from the list of relationships that constituted incest in the state. So he had introduced this bill and it was going to make it no longer a crime to have sexual relations with your first cousin and Eliza.

Literally brought the world’s attention to it. It was on late night. It was on CBS. It was on it was on all the things on MSNBC. It was like it did the rounds because of her. Social media that she did about it. So shout out to her. And also what the F

Glennis Meagher: What the F?

Brian Derrick: why is

Glennis Meagher: I don’t know. I don’t know what’s going on in Kentucky I don’t know, but

Brian Derrick: very close to Kentucky.

I’m from Ohio. I’m from very close to Kentucky. And I’m like, you don’t speak for those people either. You don’t speak for [00:38:00] anybody with that. Like that’s not what that. State is about, I will defend Kentucky by proximity and say, I don’t know what you’re thinking doing that, but like, get out of here. I’m glad that, and it, they, it’s, it’s no longer happening.

Like it got shut down the bill.

Glennis Meagher: the bill.

Brian Derrick: Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were like, Oh, it was a mistake

Glennis Meagher: Oh, okay

Brian Derrick: I accidentally wrote a bill

Glennis Meagher: right? Yikes Yikes.

Brian Derrick: on bikes.

Well, we can’t leave. We can’t end on incest. So help me out. Let’s do

Glennis Meagher: Let’s, let’s do a nice little good vibe. Goodbye. And we’re gonna talk about something that’s actually kind of complicated, but it is fundamentally or objectively good. And people are beginning to feel that way, which is the economy. So the stock market is doing pretty good. That’s a good vibe. Um,

Brian Derrick: It hit two record highs this week,

so there were two really [00:39:00] excellent economic indicators for the week. As you just said, major, major that the stock market is doing well, but that doesn’t capture like the wellbeing for everybody, right?

That’s, and I hear that all the time. Like that’s not representative of everybody’s reality. Which is true. Another metric that we use to capture that. If we had anything that was close to a vibes metric, it would be the consumer sentiment index, right? It’s, it’s like this way to measure how people are feeling about the economy, how people are, what their purchasing habits are, and like how they’re feeling about their spending power.

And that has had a the largest swing in a positive direction for like the last 30 years. and so it’s at its highest level in a couple of years, but the jump from December to January was the largest since like the early nineties. And so it shows that the economy and the vibes are both headed in the right direction at a critical time.

Of course for the [00:40:00] election in 2024, but also just for people to feel like they’re getting out of the slump that they might have been in and entering 2024, new year, new you, new budget,

Glennis Meagher: Good vibes. Let’s go.

Brian Derrick: fierce,

Glennis Meagher: That’s all the vibes for this week. Thanks for listening. We really want to hear from you. Yes. You can participate in our group chat. Send us a note, a story, a question, record a message on your phone and send it to us at vibes at courier newsroom. com. And since democracy hinges on vibes.

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